Nope, that's the one that will get you to the call and the call's recording after the fact.

Pete: The press release I posted above nearly verbatim, with minor style and grammar edits, was put out on behalf of Gloucester Township Democrats, as noted. The agency that got the press release to us, and other media outlets, was Strategic Message Design Group Inc., which is based in West Deptford and does work for GT Democrats.

Before someone asks: Yes, when GT Republicans nominate a candidate to challenge Dave Mayer in this year's mayoral election, we will gladly include the website address for his or her campaign in any press releases we pass along to the community in this manner. You have my word, and, more importantly, the word of my bosses who will be overseeing my soon-to-be announced successor.

If it is paid for by the GT Democrats and the link is to the Mayor's re-election website then it is a campaign event.

Let me say this for the record. I have no problem with Candidate Mayer hosting a campaign "town hall" to better understand what people want to see out of him in his second term. In fact I think it is a wonderful idea because it separates his role as sitting Mayor from that as someone campaigning. Assuming the Mayor plans to actually listen to people and embrace their complaints this is an innovative idea. Note again I am not placing any judgments on if he is sincere or not so please do not use my compliment of this idea as a platform to bash the Mayor.

My problem with this event is that it is advertised and discussed in the paper as a municipal town hall. The data collected from the residents might be the same but there is a difference between doing this as the government and using it as a campaign event. If he wants to call it a "town hall" then in my opinion it should be purely municipal in its focus and not be a campaign event.

Just my opinion. Like the concept but completly disagree with it being billed as a municipal event.

Thank you, Sean.

The release is very slickly worded and presented to make it seem like this is a township government event.

Well Pete people sometime calls me to BLUNT ...So here it is .....Who runs this Township .....Hint they have all the power that will be DAVE'S team ........SMH...and now I'm also learning the GT democrats out of West Deptford too ....Hint Hint looks to me a lot of OUTSIDERS are running things ....PS Think strong ,,...I do ....Now on another note can I be the first call ...Pretty please , I'll will be waiting by my phone

Stache's Minion can you point out where in Sean's article it says the mayor was holding a "municipal town hall meeting" as you stated? I believe you are making things up and it is this type of hatred and misinformation that gets people all pumped up on here to go off the deep end with misinformation. AS a matter of record can you tell us all how many times the word municipal is used in the entire article? I say the number is 0. Actually can you tell us if any derivative of the word municipal was used I would be willing to say 0x would you like to prove me wrong?

Thank you for you thoughtful reply. I had stated advertised and discussed in the paper. I did not say Patch. Here is the link

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/new_jersey/20130227_Gloucester_Township_to_hold__telephone_town_hall_.html

The Inquirer headline is "Gloucester Township to hold 'telephone town hall'". This to most people reads like an official town hall.

I also asked people to not bash the Mayor. There was no misinformation get people pumped up but my opinion on my Mayor sending out press releases leading the media covering this as if it were an official GT event. I was not attacking you.

I am not here to attack the Mayor. I like the idea of a teleconference campaign event to communicate to people and get feedback. I just don't like it being advertised as a GT event. When the Mayor does something I disagree with, I have a right to speak my mind about it.

Is this how his "team" reacts to criticism?

OK Stache's Minion you seem to be 0 for 2 now because again just like the first article the word municipal was not used....I would normally say good try but that one was even more lame then your first attempt to discredit this mayor.

Great Job Mayor Mayer just like the article in today's paper says your Town Hall meeting that cost the tax payers nothing and was billed as "A ringing success" congratulations Mayor Mayer on a job well done.

hahaha ..When your last day Sean ...;-)

Seems that the mayor and his team of Hutchison, Schmidt and Winters are trying to bamboozle the honest, hardworking families in GT. This is an issue if fidelity and honesty. But when it comes to fidelity and honesty Dave Mayer has no concept of neither. We are legion. We are watching. We are faithful and committed.

I'm just asking for a Phone call .

If that is the case, then
Journalistic accuracy is not displayed here as the title of the story is labeled
" Mayor Hosts Town Hall by Phone Tonight" then quoting a press release.
Why not title the story what you called it??? Why call it a town hall ?

I stand by my "journalistic accuracy." I stand by my use of the phrase "town hall" in the headline, as this event is open to the public, i.e. the town. Let us know when your candidate wants to host a town hall, or whatever you think it should be called, and I'm sure we'll give you equal time.

1 point Sean , O to GT watchdog ...;-)

Stick and stones may break your BONES .,,,,,,,,But poor grammar will not hurt anyone ........SMH ...Get a Clue

Just to further that comment Sue if he uses the mayors office and phone lines it will still not be an issue as Governor Christie and Assemblyman Dicicco set precedence for doing the same thing with there town hall meetings.

Okay Andre , No one is saying it is wrong to do .....Now follow this clue ........What is your First Right ......."SIR" ......I attend to use my vocie and talk about real ISSUES like it's okay for the DEMOCRATS to spend MILLIONS on campaigns and PROPAGANDA as my OWN TWO eyes see a TON on issues in my TOWNSHIP not getting done and solved and WHO RUNS this township ........I hope someday to skip with you to this tune .......http://youtu.be/EjGbGMCvPQ8 .........SMH ........"Really"

Everyone else knew. Your bright. You were probably blogging and fell asleep because your blogs does that to people.

Ps not impressed with your blogs.....

I need a DRINK!!
BTW: He has saved the township 1.7 million + another $400,000 with the trash thingie system of sharing. WOOO buffalos HOOOO

Debbie do you think all betting (besides lottery of course) should be a voted on issue? What do you think the punishment should be for an elected official that allowed betting that was not previously legal just because he was trying to rake in a few extra bucks to help with taxes in our towns?

He bragged about how successful other places in the were, like PENNSAUKEN????? I can;t remember the other places, I think I blocked it!!!!

Debbie that was not my question, I am trying to understand why you have a problem with off track or any type of betting being allowed here if it will help so again I will ask a fairly simple question:

Debbie do you think all betting (besides lottery of course) should be a voted on issue? What do you think the punishment should be for an elected official that allowed betting that was not previously legal just because he was trying to rake in a few extra bucks to help with taxes in our towns?

Debbie I do apologize that is actually 2 simple questions, I was never very good at math. I was homeschooled back in in Haiti.

Debbie were those questions too complicated for you?

I didn't want them to be. I am sorry if they were, but the first question only needed a yes or no answer and the second question was simply asking for your opinion. I really did not think they were so mind blowing. Oh well I guess when someone really does not have an opinion asking them for one is a difficult task for them to respond too.

OMG!!! He says having an off track betting parlor fill the beautiful but now empty Stone Grill will boot commerce in the area that sadly continues to struggle. ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? The last bar we had open till 2am that was a real popular night spot became the sceen of a murder!!!! Do we have really short memories????

I hae listened to the recording and need to correct my post above about shared disposal savings. The mayor said the projected savings from trash collection is 1.7 mil over 5 years. I mis-stated the number above. There was no savings projection provide for recycle, only tht we increased 40% and we make $$ selling some of the waste. win/win. How much? Don't know. We have saved about $70 thou on disposal costs. There, I have corrected myself.

About the solar project. I believe the mayor accidentally mis-quoted the capacity when he said 6 megawatts. 2 of the largest sky-scrapers in the city don't require that much load. Having said that, the panels will provide energy that can be purchased at market rates unless we have contracted for a set price or a price set below market. The contractor will own all the energy put on the grid. This type of plan can work really well based on how the township contracted the buy back for the energy. I am confident they consulted an analyst who helped them with this project to ensure the returns they have been told to expect.

I am not critizing the mayor in any way about the solar project. It's a wonderful endeavor and I commend his intensions. The deregulation of electric generation is a really new an evolving market. The product of electricity is now subject to the whims of the open market.

Was that murder last night because I believe there are several bars in this town that are open until 2 AM so do you have a police report showing some murder last night that went under the radar so far that no news agency in the nation picked up on it or are the police in this town covering it up in the all powerful operation to hide information from residents? Seriously your answer is bazar and unsubstantiated at best.

According to you we are supposed to believe that people that drink before 1 PM are going to kill people but only if they do it on Sundays? Really? If you want something to complain about please don't make things up. Yes we all remember the kid that got killed outside Chatterly's 11 or so years ago. That bar has been open under 2 other names since and both times until 2AM and no other murders happened their it was an unfortunate event not something that will happen because a bar opens before 1PM on Sundays. That said you still did not answer my questions. I will repost them since you seem to think starting a new thread will somehow help avoid them.

Debbie, do you think all betting (besides lottery of course) should be a voted on issue? What do you think the punishment should be for an elected official that allowed betting that was not previously legal just because he was trying to rake in a few extra bucks to help with taxes in our towns?

As far as your concern for people that live near the proposed site; nobody lives there it is a commercial area. So unless the people that live in the gas station or the rite aid or the Entemins factory are bothered by this bar replacing the last bar, there really is no problem. In fact you even complemented the Stone Grill which was a bar in the same location open until 2AM in fact they will be using the same liquor license to open this facility. Please think before you continue to spread false statements making people get worked into a hysteria for no reason at all.

Nothing I have said is false. People live behind the Stone Grill, the gas station and the Rite Aid. I am quite framiliar with the location. If the residents of the township want to approve off track betting in the township? I'm OK with it. It's the lack or absence of that consideration I have much trouble with. Funny it seems to be such a done deal already and I did not hear of it until tonight. Same thing with the purchase of the armored vehicle that was such a done deal before I ever heard of it. Many residents are probably in the same situation I am in, they just don't know.

No one complained when any other bar opened in G.T. prior to Mayor taking office. Shame, you waste your life in G.T. harassing and complaining about everything we do here. Go Home and try cleaning up your own town, Oh that's right , they hate you also from what I hear they don't want you either. As a matter of fact I think you should move to Liartown, North Baseless USA, then you could be Mayor. I guess your against the Stone Grill because your so used to hanging in sleazy places where you can spin your crap to people who have had 10 to many drinks.

WOW, thanks a stretch Susan. You don't know me. Your post can't be directed at me because it doesn't remotely fit me or any situation even remotely related to me. But, Don't get discouraged, eventually something you throw at the wall might stick. Good luck.

Are the unfounded attacks against me the way you support other residents who have concerns or issued with how poor choices being made by our municiple representatives? I quote you:
"I;m all for people coming and asking questions,presentiong ideas and stating their concerns to our leadership.
But this is insane, I wish more people would come to council or watch online"
I quess you only feel that way if people are going to follow you or agreed with you. If someone does not agree with you then the response you provide is as silly as the one above directed at me? BTW, it really is a silly post...
I quote you again:
"I'm not afraid of bullies."

Susan:
Are the unfounded attacks against me the way you support other residents who have concerns or issued with how poor choices being made by our municiple representatives? I quote you:
"I;m all for people coming and asking questions,presentiong ideas and stating their concerns to our leadership.
But this is insane, I wish more people would come to council or watch online"
I quess you only feel that way if people are going to follow you or agreed with you. If someone does not agree with you then the response you provide is as silly as the one above directed at me? BTW, it really is a silly post...
I quote you again:
"I'm not afraid of bullies."

Question for you Susan, let me quote you again: "harassing and complaining about everything we do here." Who is WE? Are you a member of the township administration?

Debbie stop drinking you make no sense. Just move. Call Dave and thank him when you sober up

Thank you that is exactly what I am going to count on you to do also lets join together and vote out Chris Christie since he wants to ignore federal laws prohibiting sports betting. All Mayor Mayer is doing is exactly what the state governor is asking so if you have a problem with one you must have a problem with the one who created the plan right? See Debbie I was not talking down to you I was asking your opinion now I am counting on you to keep your word on this subject. Join our cause:
Join me and Debbie Shinn and VOTE OUT Chris Christie for ignoring federal laws and allowing sports betting in New Jersey:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/25/chris-christie-sports-betting_n_1545220.html

Andre: BTW, getting back you post about your question 2 and opposition to Cristies sports betting legislation. Let me start by restating your question. "What do you think the punishment should be for an elected official that allowed betting that was not previously legal just because he was trying to rake in a few extra bucks to help with taxes in our towns?" Then, let me restate my issue regarding off track betting for the township. "The residents should be provided the opportunity to vote on the issue, up or down." Let me also restate your direct request from me. "Join me and Debbie Shinn and VOTE OUT Chris Christie for ignoring federal laws and allowing sports betting in New Jersey." The problem with your position on this issue Andre as well as your problem on this with me is that in 2011, the residents of the State overwhelmingly approved sports betting in New Jersey. Sorry buddy but the issue was presented as a ballot referrendum and was approved by the voters. Christy is attempting to close the loop on that approval. I have no opinion on the issue at this point, the residents have decided. That same consideration should be provided the residents of the township. I would be satisfied with the outcome knowing the public had a voice.

Thanks Sue, sorry but glad you share my frustration. You or I cannot stop the moving train call GT Council or the Mayor. Awareness is what is necessary. My frustration is not things being done I don't agree with. My frustration is things being done and other residents are not aware. My answer? I put Council and the mayor notice that I am not happy and I am now watching. Having done that, I am now attending all Council meetings. 2 reasons. Learn and be aware. Not sure where it takes me, maybe no where. Maybe I discover all things are OK and I can get back to my life but for now, I feel the need to plugged in and paying attention.

Wow .........Good luck hope to see you at the council meetings

Honestly, I can't be dissatisfied with recycling, it does save debris from landfills and it does save a municipality $$. Having said that, the Mayors #'s made no sense. He claimed he saved 1.7 million with shared picked-up and another $400 thou from recycling. That sounds good. He than suggested the recycling (combined items) program saved 61 metric tons from the landfill. I honestly forget the initial # he provided representing what our initial trash weight was, but I don't think it was well over 100 metric tons. If we are recycling close to or over 1/2 of out output, the saving should be more than $400 thou is our overall cost exceeded 1.7 mil to begin with. The math just did not work for me. However, I find most of the math coming from the Mayor and Council is questionable. Like his solar power generation figure of 6 Megawatts? Over what period, a decade?

Don't hit them with FACTS "Debbie the hacks don't like that ..........

GTW: I was on the call, and did not vote "5" for this poll question.

I understand that you are frustrated with GT government, and I realize that this town hall and the poll questions were slanted; but, are you really "very dissatisfied" with the recycling program, or were you just rigging the poll?

Look at you, acting like the independent thinker and all...your masters must be proud of you. Just reading through your comment almost brings me to tears. Oh the inhumanity...

Spell much?

How do you live with yourself? Take a poll and see how many people on here actually want to have to scroll through your constant regurgitation of the same old stuff. Whether your criticisms of me are founded in truth or not, you make me look like a genius. Why don't you take a pill and give it a rest?

Have a safe trip GJGT, when will you return? It's a shame you won't be here for the hearing on Wed., You know, the former councilwoman hearing. I know everyone is waiting to see if the comments will be reviewed and sequestered again by Patch Staff. Maybe not, because all the personal attacks on the Mayor just this week obviously haven't been reviewed and removed. I hope that they" Patch" are not holding a "former Councilwoman " in higher regard than a seated Mayor like they have been doing in the past. Maybe the new Editor in Chief will be more balanced on Patch policy. Hurry back , I can't believe you are going to leave me alone with all of the "I hate everything they post about Township" bloggers. I'm so scared, they may pick on me for Loving G.T. with my positive outlook on the progress here in the. past 3 years.. LOL, SMH, just smile, I .do...