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Opponents of School Principal Shakeup Plan Victorious—for Now

Faced with hundreds of incensed parents and teachers, the Gloucester Twp. school board changes course on a plan to transfer principals and vice principals.

 

An outpouring of fury from parents and educators livid at a planned wide-ranging shuffle of principals and vice principals in Gloucester Township schools prevailed Monday.

After hearing two hours of angry comments from teachers and parents about the proposed rearrangement of school administrators midyear and with short notice, the school board of the K-8 district curtailed most of the changes.

Instead, the board approved:

  • Hiring Patrick McCarthy as principal of Erial Elementary (rather than Union Valley, as was planned)
  • Hiring Andrea Stubbs as principal of Blackwood Elementary (as was planned)
  • Hiring Aaron Rose as principal of Loring-Flemming Elementary (as was planned)
  • Keeping Tracy Elwell as principal of Union Valley (instead of moving her to Erial Elementary)
  • Keeping Robert Holmes as assistant principal of Lilley Elementary (instead of moving him to Union Valley)
  • Keeping Rebecca Tiernan as assistant principal of Chews Elementary (instead of moving her to Lilley Elementary)

Emotions—from piercing sobs to angry yelling to rousing words of support and, finally, yells of “thank you!”—punctuated the standing-room-only Gloucester Township school board meeting.

One by one, parents and teachers stood to protest a domino situation that would have seen several principals and vice principals transferred to other schools in mid-February. The school board had three administrator positions to fill, but planned a major upheaval affecting six schools that drew accusations of treating staff like “pawns.” Several of the administrators neither requested nor wanted to change schools, according to comments.

Most galling, opponents said, were plans to make the moves in the next few weeks instead of waiting until summer.

“We couldn’t fathom why you would move principals and assistants from building to building, midyear, like pawns on a chessboard,” Lisa Cowne, Erial resident and Union Valley third-grade teacher, said of teachers’ reaction when they first heard of the school district’s plan.

“Unlike a chess game, however, you’re not considering the layout of the board or the ramifications of your moves. … Your proposed moves are random, chaotic and careless.”

Janet Schuck, a Blackwood resident and Lilley Elementary kindergarten teacher, said sudden turnover harms student achievement.

“Are you putting our students’ best interests at heart?” Schuck asked, holding back tears but unable to stop her voice from breaking. “What valid reasons do you have for moving principals and vice principals around needlessly? I could fully understand if you were simply filling a vacant position, but you’re not.

“I feel we deserve clear, straightforward answers from all of you, not ones that are sugarcoated and made to make it seem like these decisions are in the best interest of everyone involved because we both know they’re not.”

Board members and Interim Superintendent John Bilodeau defended the planned changes at several points, but were often shouted down or challenged by audience members unsatisfied with the explanations.

“We have four Title I schools. We have the State of New Jersey that reminds me constantly how poor the test results are in those schools,” Bilodeau said. “I wanted to strengthen those schools by virtue of these moves tonight—obviously, not popular ones.”

Board changes direction, for now

The groundswell of comments, with not a single one in support of the changes, eventually prompted the school board to go into executive session to discuss the administrative shuffle plans. The school board kept the audience in anticipation when it returned a half-hour later, going through its agenda in order.

A stillness completely absent from the rest of the meeting settled over the Mullen Middle School library as the staff change vote neared. Board President William Collins prefaced the announcement with a reassurance that the school board wanted to and did listen to constituents.

“You’ve assured us how much you care and how much the people in your schools mean, and once again, I’ll state that the people sitting up here care wholeheartedly about your schools and about your students and about the people who work there,” Collins said.

“We’re all up here doing this for the right reasons.”

After the board made changes to its plan, the room exploded into cheers and hugs. Tracy Elwell, who will stay on as Union Valley principal, embraced her mom before parents and teachers started hugging her in congratulations. Other teachers high-fived each other or jumped in excitement.

“The board heard the staff, they heard parents,” Bilodeau said after the meeting. “I think their primary concern was timing. One person spoke about having some kind of compromise and I think it struck a chord.”

But parents and teachers shouldn’t necessarily expect school principals and vice principals to remain as-is for the next school year.

“It will be discussed again, yes,” Bilodeau said of possible administrator transfers after the school year ends.

Gloucester Township Education Association President Angel McDermott said she was pleased the board listened to parents and faculty on the timing of the transfers.

“I think if this comes up at the end of the year, there will be none of this,” McDermott said, gesturing to the room that hosted the heated meeting. “You bring this up and vote on it on May so the kids have time to say goodbye and get closure, the staff has time to meet the person and the administrator has time to get acclimated over the summer.

“If you time it that way, everyone starts fresh on day one.”

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  • Did the Gloucester Twp. school board make the right decision on voting to stop the principal and vice principal school transfers?

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    • Yes, but transfers should be made, if necessary, during the summer.
        16 (42%)
    • Yes, and transfers should be off the table now.
        19 (50%)
    • No, the transfers should have been approved.
        3 (7%)
    Total votes: 38
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Related Topics: Angel McDermott, Gloucester Township Public Schools, Gloucester Township school principal transfers, and John Bilodeau

Sue

6:53 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

It's sad that our schools have turned into a business. The children aren't put first, business is. Any Administration or Board Member that agreed with these "moves" mid year, should be removed from their position.

Question: Do we have a Superintendent or Interim Superintendent? When will we or did conduct emails for a Superintendent? Who is/was on the committee for the search?

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julia donahue

7:16 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

Sue,
We have an "interim" super at this time, which means he could or could not be appointed as permanent super. I believe last year the Board hired a company to "find" candidates, none of which ended up being hired. Subsequent to that, many other administrators moved to other districts and the district has been functioning without anyone but the interim super at the helm...thankfully, some help is on the way--hopefully the right people. As an additional point for the public, our teachers have been working this entire year without a contract....

Matt

7:25 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

It was apparent during the meeting that Interim Superintendent Bilodeau did not realize that the changes were scheduled to take place around parent teacher conf time at Union Valley and if a parent wanted to discuss a situation with an administrator they would have been doing so with individuals completely new to the building. As a Superintendent how can you not know that? it lends weight to the argument that the decision was not made with the kids/parents interest in mind. probably his attempt to put his "stamp" on the district - smacks of self importance.

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Ronald Patterson

9:20 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

The BOE spent a great deal of money to use the NJ School Board Association to hire a superintendent back in the spring. They initially did not hire Bilodeau but were going with an outside person. Then, not liking the candidates, they hired Bilodeau as Interim. The BOE were the only people involved in the search. They are not trained to know what makes a good superintendent and Bilodeau is a Business Administrator. The Board is running the district right now and they are all motivated by political power and have no idea what is best for students. What a shame.

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Mel

9:37 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

The stories teachers are circulating is the board interviewed highly qualified Superintendents. The board told them their expectation was the new Superintendent would come in and make sweeping changes including firing specific people the board had targeted. All of the qualified Superintendents refused to operate like that because they have ethics and put children first. Thus we were left with Bilodaeu who has no teaching background and does not understand education.

What was clear last night was that he is treating the school operations like a business. Maybe if he had a real education background and actually spent years in front of children, he would have understood the impact of making administration changes especially ones mid year. This is not corporate America where you can reorg every 6 months.

Ronald: your statement about political power is an understatement. Last night one of the parents yelled at the board for their political involvement saying they answered to the people. He was right on. We are tired of the board using our children for their personal gains.

Charles

10:05 am on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

The BOE doesn't have "personal gain" on the table at all! However, they DO answer to the Democratic Party operators (check the source of support at election time). THIS, alone, makes them focus less on the children than they want to. They are truly between a rock and a hard place. NO business administrator can understand the needs of the kids and teachers. It's not in their DNA; therefore, NO such person should be considered a candidate for EDUCATIONAL leadership. If the teachers have no contract, check the NJEA. They control what the union can accept; no, not directly, but by strong influence and advice.

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Lynne Valente

12:55 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

We didn't even know our Principal at Loring Flemming was on the chopping block. She turned that school around. I am saddened and disgusted. I plan to reach out to our PEC now. I can't tell you how great she has been with our children.

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Pete Heinbaugh

1:05 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

“We have four Title I schools. We have the State of New Jersey that reminds me constantly how poor the test results are in those schools,” Bilodeau said.

I am not trying to be a smart aleck, I am just a low-information reader asking an honest question....

If Bilodeau's statement above is true, then why is everyone so excited about keeping status quo?

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Didjaknow

3:00 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Bilodeau's statement is a big CYA. Someone should ask him about test scores in a public meeting. He would have no clue whatsoever. He can tell you all about the tax levy and salaries, but he has no clue what test scores mean. Just ask him. He simply wants to shake up the administration so any allegiance to the prior administration is gone. It is a power grab. He is on one big ego trip for a guy who never spent a day in a classroom EVER.

Lynne Valente

1:16 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

The teachers are forced to teach for the tests. In that, many other things are lost. I have two boys in middle school now, and two kindergarteners. My 6 year olds are doing Math. I'm generally not opposed to that but develipmentally most 5-6 year olds are not ready for that. They get a lot of homework because there is no time to finish everything. I've been in the classroom and seen how the teachers have to rush. That is the real problem. Restructure the curriculum and make full day kindergarten. There is only so much one person can do with 20+ kids and one assistant in a day.

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Darren Gladden

11:12 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Bingo we don't have money to make full day Kindergarten but we have money to HIRE a VP of council with a nice fat Title JOB and buy an APC ...........GMAB wake up people your town is being run by OUTSIDERS that have lost tons of money and funds along the way . Ever here Tom the BA for this town talk .....OMG I think he makes stuff up to hide all the misdoing that the LEADERSHIP do everyday in this town . WE the people NEED REAL CHANGE THIS YEAR .I hope to god the GTGOP get's of the rear ends this year and FIGHT for the people of GT and make real changes ......NOTHING going to get done right unless you TAKE out the MAYOR AND HIS team ........Hey Stach why they throw you out of the STATE assembly .....The Truth "SIR" WILL SET YOU FREE ........

Schu

1:31 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

I've noticed a steady declined in the last 4 years. We have teachers who are scared of the administrators and we have teachers who are buddy buddy so evaluations and observations mean nothing. Keeping the status quo and riding this ship over the edge.

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l Paine

5:35 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

People seem so surprised by the actions of this School Board and it's "Interim Superintendent". You shouldn't be there have been enough people on this site writing about it and asking for people to come out and get involved and ask hard questions of this Board. Like over a year and you couldn't find a qualified replacement for Superintendent? Why Bilodeau as Interim Superintendent? If you listen to stories from employees he has had his own issues with the Board regarding District rules? Why with all the taxes paid we have such poor test scores? Why once it was clear that Bilodeau was going to be named that more than a few Administrators chose to leave the District than work with Bilodeau? Why at almost every Board meeting Bilodeau always seems to have a flurry of Budget transfers? Why teachers and Support Staff are still working without contracts?
Bilodeau has no experience as a teacher or principal so he has no clue how transfers effect a building and the people in it, yet he is the best canidate this Board could find to run this District. this speaks volumes how out of touch this Board is!

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sunshine

8:59 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

We have teachers who work tirelessly with the children in this district, even without a contract. It was revealed last night that the board can't agree to give the teachers more than a 2% increase, however, we have an interim super who was given a Ford F150 to tool around in... at the taxpayers expense. As a taxpayer, I would rather give my teachers a raise than to continue to pay the gas on this vehicle and pay to have his private vehicles serviced at the municiple garage.

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l Paine

9:06 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Not only given a truck and free gas, but insurance and maintenance. If you dig deep enough I bet there is more to the story about this attempt to move these principals mid year.

teachwell

10:16 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

The test scores in any district have more to do with how prepared the students are when they enter the schools and the socioeconomic status of the families than anything that happens in the schools. I'm not suggesting that schools shouldn't be held accountable, but that schools with larger percentages of poor students have a greater uphill battle. This is true across the nation.

And kindergarteners have been doing math for decades. Please. They are more than capable. The district only has half day kindergarten - that's something to complain about. They have half a day to play and half a day to learn.

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Concerned citizen

11:36 pm on Tuesday, January 29, 2013

I agree with teachwell regarding test scores. Teachers can only do so much in a day. If reinforcement and encouragement is not practiced in the home then students do not learn the value of education. When do we start holding families accountable for test scores? Parents need to be in a partnership with their child's teacher to ensure that their children find success in the classroom. You can switch administrators and teachers all you want, but parents must set a good example and be involved in their child's education!

Daisy

1:05 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

The district's curriculum supervisors have made horrible choices in the last 6 years! Reading & writing curriculums have not been consistent. Just as the teachers are getting used to a certain program they change it. Or, they are forced to teach with a horrible writing program that does not prepare the students for tests or real life writing! So teachers are teaching from curriculums that they don't agree with because they know it's not helping the children. Administrators & supervisors should be listening to the teachers & actually getting their opinions before choosing BS curriculums!! Gloucester township has wasted so much money on useless curriculums that are not helping our children. That's the problem (well 1 of the many problems)!! Tax payers should not be complaining about teachers salaries, but instead on these wasted curriculums!

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Paul J. DiBartolo

7:38 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Okay, I hate to state the obvious...not really:-) Allow me to quote Dr. Steve Perry. Oh, teachers, you say you are concerned with education but haven't heard of Steve Perry. Well, he runs a school in Hartford, CT, that sends 100% of its mostly minority students on to four-year colleges.
First, my disclaimer: I have no love for the School Board, in fact, I attended the 2013 re-org meeting and stated on the Patch that I felt like I was watching an episode of the Keystone Cops. So, much for the School Board.
Moving right along, Dr. Perry enlightened me to part of our problem in the public schools. He stated that our schools that were once a product-oriented enterprise have now become a producer-oriented enterprise. Are you getting that?
Additionally, Dr. Perry stated another thing that I've known for years, 75% of our students attempting to go on to Community College have to take remedial courses because, although they have been awarded a diploma, it really doesn't mean anything in this day and age. I discovered this over ten years ago when I read that our community colleges complained that the schools were not doing their jobs correctly because too many young adults were coming to them and needed remedial courses before being eligible for college level courses. Go to CCC today and ask and you'll find out that it's now been accepted that remedial courses are a foregone conclusion.
It is truly sad and cannot all be blamed on the administrators. Now what?

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Mel

7:45 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Paul: The administration hires the Super and all of the cirriculum administrators. Spend a day with a teacher and you will see how their hands are tied with respect to what they have to teach and even the format of the day. did you know schools now have longer classes but only teach subjects part of the year?

Most teachers are hard working and capable. They have little control over subject content and often teaching technique. Maybe if the school board had voting members from the teachers union there might be some sanity to their decisions and discussions because in our case the board and Superintendent have little to no educational background. This is clear from their decisions.

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Paul J. DiBartolo

8:15 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Mel, I have six children, five of them who spent some time in the public school system. Additionally, I spent ninth through twelfth grade in the public school system in NJ and, other than a little algebra, learned essentially nothing. Fortunately I had an excellent first through eighth grade education and learned how to read books during that time.
The point is, there is nothing you can say to me that will convince me that our public schools are worth the distance I can throw them.
Sorry to disappoint, but again, let me reiterate Dr. Steve Perry's comment...our public schools, which used to be the gem of the world's school systems, were, in their original form, product oriented - all about the student. Today, with the rise of the teachers' unions and tenure and whatever else you want to add to the list, our public schools have become nothing more than employment farms for teachers, as Dr, Perry says - producer oriented.
You can go here:
http://php.app.com/edstaff/search.php
...and search any teacher's salary. I've been there and found out that all the whining is unjustified. They make a decent wage and get two months off.
Cry me a river.

Joe Kearney

8:35 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

John Bilodeau is worthless know nothing, a trouble maker and has no idea what he is doing.........Since he has been there he has been upsetting the apple cart. Our best move for Gloucester Township Public Schools would be to move him mid-year to the unemployment line.

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Mel

8:41 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

In the business world, the saying is that people do not leave companies, they leave managers. Why did so many people leave when he was named as Super? What kind of complete lack of judgment and knowledge of schools did he show in his idiotic idea to shuffle around so many administrators mid-year?

I agree, Bilodeau is a huge mistake. No one who truly cares about the kids would make the decisions he has. Moving around principals like he does is a way of keeping any of them from being too powerful and being a threat to his power.

Anonymous 4 CamCo

10:06 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

We wonder if the INTERIM Super drives that GT taxpayer funded Ford F150 to his other job at the Pennsauken BOE? Does anyone wish to comment on this? We are legion. We are watching. We are everywhere.

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stephbelch

11:09 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I just checked the Pennsauken School District website and he was not listed as a BOE member for this year. You have peeked my interest. Do you have anything to support this, I would love to check it out.

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Anonymous 4 CamCo

3:40 pm on Sunday, February 3, 2013

We strive to help people help themselves. It is important to look things up and research issues. Our questions are posed in order to spur debate and discussion otherwise ignored. What indeed are the reasons GT ended up with others used and damaged goods again? Why indeed are residents paying for this frauds truck? Why indeed are members of a supposed non partisan BOE so engrained in the local single party power base? Keep asking questions, keep demanding answers. We are legion. We are watching. We are here.

Angie Jones

10:06 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Dont know much about Bilodeau. I do know that I have a kid in Chews school and a step-kid in Triton. I have seen a decline in both. I don't care what test scores say. I am talking about the character of the people and the staff. Chews school has been a fiasco since Tracy Elwell left. Lucky Union Valley will not have to deal with the same fate. It's the blind leading the blind over there now.

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Angie Jones

10:10 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Used to be a great school. Now no one even pays attention to what the kids are doing. Every day my son tells me someone got in a fight at recess or kids were cursing and screaming on the bus and teachers and lunch aides just yell and scream all the time. never used to be that way. Who's minding the ship?
I blame parents too. 3rd and 4th graders fighting and dropping the f bomb? really? Who is raising these kids?

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Michelle Wolfson

10:18 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I have kids in 2 of the effected schools and I knew nothing about any of this until day before yesterday. Didn't even know there was a potential for them to be shuffled around, or that we were getting a new Principal at Lorring Flemming. And I consider myself pretty knowledgable about what goes on in Gloucester Township. I would have likely attended the meeting.

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Darren Gladden

11:17 am on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Come on Mrs Green get in da game

Michelle Wolfson

12:13 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I agree with Angie Jones that things have not been the same this year at Chews. I have 2 kids there. I don't know what the issue is. Did you know that one of the teachers actually told her class that "they were the worst 5th grade class that they have ever had at Chews".

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Paul J. DiBartolo

1:11 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

There's an app for that...homeschooling.
I know, I know, it's too hard. Goodness, I had a teacher in Woodbury, mother to a little league teammate of my son, tell me there was no way she could homeschool her son but she was teaching 20 to 30 kids in the Woodbury school. Be very, very concerned.

Daisy

4:20 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

The decline in Gloucester Township started when superintendent mr. Seussmuth left in 2005 and the "good old boys" (Seddon, Petruzelli, etc) went on power trips! The decline in Chews started when Tracy Elwell became principal & it just continued to get worse with bad administrators. Tracy may be doing a fine job now at Union Valley, but I find that hard to believe when she only taught Kindergarten for 3 years.
Also, teachers are trying to help their students but they have to jump through hoops to get that help. Teachers are frustrated with limited resources and no one wanting to help them - including parents.

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Michelle Wolfson

4:38 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I agree to a point. I know several parents who are more than willing to help out however they can if they asked- myself included. I think Chews has a pretty active group of parents. I know not every teacher is that lucky.
I see a huge lack of respect on both sides.
I can't really complain about Mrs Elwell. I think she did a nice job in her short time at Chews. The kids all loved her, and I've never heard a bad word about her from parents.
This past year and a half or so, I have seen a tremendous lack of communication and respect among students-parents-teachers-administrators. It is not just one thing or one group. It is a multi-pronged problem.
As someone who posts with my own name, and is known by a lot of people in this community, I am sure I run the risk of drawing the ire of various people, but I call it like I see it.

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Michelle Wolfson

4:39 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

I got my letter home today from Loring Flemming. So, I guess now I know about the Principal leaving- a little too late.

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Darren Gladden

5:18 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Yo ,Yo,Yo Lies once again .......They called me today and told me I must go to the Bus place to pick AIR reports ...Would you like to meet me there tomorrow

l Paine

7:34 pm on Wednesday, January 30, 2013

Well hopefully this Board and it's puppet Bilodeau's recent actions will finally get people involved. That means asking hard questions, getting rid of political hacks like Collins, Carr and the rest of this Board and replacing them with people who put children first, not political favors. Then finding a real Superintendent for this district and ridding ourselves of the Board puppet Bilodeau.
If you take a look at the Board minutes you will notice the same old Bilodeau shell game the famous Budget Transfers. Keep moving money around until the public loses track or just gets confused. If you check past Board minutes you will notice constant transfers almost every month. Did Bilodeau give the public a real budget to vote on or did he just plug numbers into accounts and move money around how he wants with no regard on what the public voted on.

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Hadenough

11:59 am on Thursday, January 31, 2013

The five educators charged in the sex scandal—teachers Jeffrey Logandro, 32, Nicholas Martinelli, 28, and Daniel Michielli, 27, and administrators Catherine DePaul, 55, and Jernee Kollock, 39—currently are suspended with pay.

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Lauren Burgoon

12:28 pm on Thursday, January 31, 2013

Not for this school district, though. That's the purview of the Black Horse Pike Regional school district.

Didjaknow

3:12 pm on Friday, February 1, 2013

Let's review...Edwards, Davis, Moran, Wrigley, Lamb, Petruzelli, Csolak - all administrators who left for leadership positions in other districts in the last 18 MONTHS. These people gave up that precious tenure as well as sick days and such to GET OUT of Gloucester Township. Now we have secretaries that are leaving for other districts! There must be a dead skunk lying around for so many people to be holding their nose and running from GT! The school board is micro-managing, politically motivated, and clueless. They surely do not care about our kids. The ones who care have left to care for others. Sad.

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MomGT

6:15 pm on Wednesday, February 6, 2013

Concerned about the principal hiring practices. Are our children's best interest in mind, and are the most qualified people being placed as principal? Or as interim superintendent said at Board of Ed mtg, "Loring Flemming needs a strong male minority presence" when asked why someone from outside of district was hired over in district applicants.

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Linda Ostraski

4:53 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013

I understand as parents we're all upset with the board, however who invited someone from another town to come in and scream at one of the members? When did it become ok to use scare tactics to accomplish getting what we want? What happened to that woman was awful. I'm embarrassed we've come to this, because quite frankly there is no excuse for it. If any child saw the way that man acted we would have covered their ears and eyes. Why didn't the School Board President stop things? Things may have gotten upsetting for all parties but the board has children as well I'm sure. Not everything boils down to a huge political scheme or cover up looming behind a door. I hope I never see that at a meeting again, and I hope that young man never comes back to our town again with such venom.

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Susan Greene

2:35 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Your absolutely right Linda, it was awful for that woman to be subject to that kind of bulling and I really don't want to hear that her job, no one should be subjected to that type of badgering. This man USED his own Political agenda at a school board meeting. From what I understand, that man does not live in Gloucester Township, nor has he spawned any children who attend schools here.
This man I do know has gone from town to town county to county, harassed, bullied and makes false allegations about every township official and Council member. I'm not sure but I think it's like 20- 25 municipalities now. He he does the same thing he did Monday night to the board member.
If any children were there then mommy could have pointed at little Johnny and said, There is a perfect example of what a Bully is, and we have no room for them in G.T. and just maybe his mommy should have taught her little Johnny the same thing.
He makes it public record to state his name and that he is from Gloucester City at every council meeting if that answers your question Stache's Minion?
Now that were talking about this fella, doesn't he serve on the Clementon or Pine Hill Housing Authority? I thought you had to live in a Municipality to serve on a commission? This guy has served I believe for over a year now and still states he lives in Gloucester City. a little hypocritical don't you think?

Stache's Minion

5:53 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Hi Linda. I was at the school board meeting last night. I thought I heard that kid say he was from here. Maybe I misheard him. How do you know he is from out of town?

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l Paine

6:24 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013

While I don't condone or approve of the gentlemen's approach I still can't defend the Board or Bilodeau. They have brought the anger and venom of parents and residents on themselves by ignoring parents, ignoring questions, questionable dealings, political favors and outriight disrespect for the opinions of residents and employees. Maybe after seeing the reaction of people at last two Board meetings they are starting to understand that residents are fed up and demanding change and the end of all the political games. We could start with a real Superintendent that has experience as an educator.

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Charles

8:23 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Sorry, but I disagree. The BOE are the representatives of the people. THEY are the persons who need to be replaced. That done, the people's rep's could find a proper Super' and begin the process of change.
Most teachers will do a very good job because they are the ones who really care about our kids. Unshackle them from the political people and the butt-kissers and you'd see GT once again become a top district in results.

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l Paine

9:41 am on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I'm sorry, you are right we do need to replace Board members they are the ones that have put us in this position with questionable appointments(such as Superintendent and Supervisor of Student Support Services). The only way to start the replacement process is to press them with difficult questions and demanding answers every chance we get whether it be Board Meetings, School functions or even on the street. We also need to find suitable replacements that will fight the political machine and fix this district.

Charles

2:51 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

I P: Fully agree w/you.One problem is that the machine has dominated all areas for so long that there are few independent people left, and they are intimidated by the crass conduct of the machine folk.

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l Paine

7:40 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Hopefully, people have had enough of this Board and if people are still on the fence then I suggest go to YOUTUBE type Gloucester Township BOE they have a video of the January Board meeting. You will get to see People asking questions and Board members not paying attention, smirking,looking at the people asking questions with contempt, Board members chosing to not answer questions or trying to dance around them and even Bilodeau and Collins having a conversation while a resident is trying to ask them a question. If the questionable choices by this Board and Bilodeau isn't enough to prompt people to run. Then just watch the video and watch the disrespect and contempt that the Board members and Bilodeau show parents, residents and employees who dare to ask questions that should prompt people into action. The time has come to replace this Board and Bilodeau and find candidates that respect the people that voted them on to the Board and are there for the children and not the political favors and games.

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