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Chip Kelly Wrong Fit for Eagles

The Eagles on Wednesday announced the shocking hire of Chip Kelly to be the next head coach in Philadelphia.

My first reaction is one of abject disappointment. In my opinion, intelligent Eagles fans all breathed a sigh of relief a couple weeks ago when Kelly ended his flirtation with the Eagles to return to Oregon.

At that point, the path was seemingly paved for Gus Bradley to be the next Eagles Head Coach. He seemed to be the best choice: tough, no-nonsense and NFL battle-tested, Bradley would have brought passion and NFL experience to the Eagles.

Chip Kelly will either revolutionize the NFL or fall flat on his face. The likelihood of him being successful is about 10 percent—leaving a 90 percent chance he’ll be a disaster.

At Oregon, his record was 46-7 against the PAC 10, running his gimmick offense. In the college arena, his offense was impressive to watch. It was relentless, attacking every chance it had. Its sheer volume of plays was astounding and beat opposing defenses to exhaustion and confusion. PAC 10 defenses.

When Oregon faced Stanford this season, its vaunted offense managed 14 points. The Ducks were 4-19 on third and fourth downs. When the frenetic Oregon offense was not working, it gave the ball back to the opposing team in about 60 seconds and forced Oregon’s exhausted defense back onto the field.

While running quarterbacks have had a bit of a resurgence in the NFL, there is no time-tested sample to show it will work in the long run. Kelly’s offense puts a premium on a tough, smart, mobile QB—not easy to find and a constant injury risk against NFL defenses.

If Kelly’s offense won’t work in the NFL, which seems likely, then what credentials does he have that justify him becoming a head coach in the NFL? None. Without that, he’s just a guy from the PAC 10.

If the hire of Kelly makes the Eagles retain Mike Vick to run his offense, this hiring is an unmitigated disaster. Vick is a small, timid quarterback at this point. At 33, he has become so brittle, he will last about two games running Kelly’s offense.

Could Kelly be successful? He may be so innovative that he can adapt to the NFL and create another offensive system that is conducive to the NFL game and will work at this level like his gimmick offense worked in the college game. This assumption seems to be a longshot.

In my opinion, Andy Reid did a lot of great things for the Eagles, but it was time for him to go. With the Eagles having jettisoned Reid, fans craved a return to defensive, physical football, as opposed to Reid’s pass-happy approach. Now, the fans are being given the new version of the run-and-shoot offense; a fad that flashes bright for a short time, then is dismantled by the rest of the NFL in short order.

This hire seems to signal the end of Nick Foles’ chance to become the Eagles long-term starting quarterback. Foles earned that chance, but continuing with him seems to be akin to trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

If an NFL team is trying to sell a college coach to its fan base, it should be a guy who’s been astoundingly successful at the college level. If Nick Saban was the guy, it would be much more legitimate. He has conquered college football in the SEC. Chip Kelly has had four good years at Oregon in the much lower-level PAC-10.

Jim Harbaugh would be the obvious counter-argument; however, his success is a rarity and, no doubt, his 14 years as an NFL quarterback have been an important contributor.

Lurie, Roseman and Don Smolenski are the only people who were privy to Kelly’s presentation in their nine-hour interview. Each is an intelligent, successful guy and Lurie’s two previous hires—Ray Rhodes, and moreso, Andy Reid—have been good choices in their totality. Kelly obviously told the Eagles brass what they wanted to hear and they have earned some credibility in the arena of hiring head coaches.

That being said, hiring Kelly seems more of a risk than the likelihood of any possible rewards warrants. As a diehard Eagles fan, I sincerely hope I look back and eat these words. I will do so happily.

I do not think that will happen because I think this hiring has disaster written all over it. 

Porterincollingswood

9:27 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

My biggest fear is that he staffs this team with gimmicky players for his gimmicky system - starting with blowing the #4 overall pick on Geno Smith this Spring.

Then, when his system fails, he will walk away or get fired and end up at LSU or a plum NCAA job. Spurrier-style. And we'll be left with a personnel base that is ill suited for the NFL and the new coach who runs a more conventional offense.

And at the end of the day the Eagles will have, instead of a 2-3 year rebuilding project we now face, a 5 year rebuilding project.

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Matt Skoufalos

10:27 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Cue up the Easterbrook rant about weasel coaches because it's never wrong. And the worst part in all this is that the DC list looks leaner still:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/16/short-list-of-defensive-coordinator-candidates-in-philly-possibly-sends-bad-message/

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Porterincollingswood

10:57 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Remember against the Saints when Riley Cooper threw himself on the ground and "hid" from the coverage team? Only to spring up later and take the lateral?

Well, something like that will happen every other play under Chip. It will be entertaining. It will be funny. We will go 0-16.

I predict that play 1 will feature Brent Celek disguising himself as the guy who hold the first down marker, in an effort to trick the defense into leaving him uncovered.

Then in the red zone, Jeremy Maclin will run out with a 6' ladder and a bucket full of confetti to throw at the opposing cornerback.

Loadspeakers will play the old-timey piano music from the "Keystone Cops" the entire time. Fans to be issued morning-zoo style slide whistles.

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Porterincollingswood

10:58 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Maybe the music from Bennie Hill will start at the start of every offensive snap. I'll leave that to the experts, though.

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Matt Skoufalos

11:04 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

So I should look for them to sign these guys this offseason?

http://bit.ly/11BSduv

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Mike Diviney

2:47 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Porter, that is the nightmare scenario- I was thinking that as well. No way they'll take Geno Smith at #4- he might slide to the 2nd round and I still wouldn't want him there.

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Sean McCullen

3:37 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I'd immediately turn in my Eagles Fan Card if they draft Geno Smith. Shame the Louisville kid and Clemson kid won't be available this year.

Porterincollingswood

9:29 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

And I agree, Foles is gone. So last year was a 100% waste of time.

Rumors are out that Vick has resisted attempts to re-negotiate his deal, so he's gone as of mid-February. No way they pay him $16M for a 1-year deal.

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Mike Diviney

2:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I hope Vick doesn't realize between now and then that nobody will sign him for a lucrative deal at this point in his career. See ya!

Reed Rothchild

11:02 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I too hope you eat those words. Right now Chocolate Chip Kelly Green (TM) deserves an opportunity to show what he's made of. As Eagles fans we should all be as positive as we can. Any change is good after the past 2 seasons and especially after this years debacle. Only time will tell. GO BIRDS

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Mike Diviney

2:49 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Of course, I will give him a chance. There's that 10% that this will be great, but that's not a high percentage.

Mr L

12:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Time will tell if this was a correct move by the birds. Some college coachs have made it in the NFL and some have not. Jimmy Johnson, Dick Vermeil , and some others have had success in the NFL. So lets not be so narrow minded folks.

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Mike Diviney

2:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Dick Vermeil's initial stint in the NFL began 37 YEARS AGO and Jimmy Johnson's 24 years ago. If you have to go back that far, there's a problem. Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh are successful, but Carroll was in his THIRD go round and Harbaugh played in the NFL for 14 years. I missed Chip Kelly's NFL career I guess.

Katherine Hala

12:49 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

The Team needs time come to together before we can lay Judgement on Kelly and if he will be a burst or not. You Guys in the media are being too hard already on Him. I hope you eat those words in the future about him being a burst already.

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Matt Skoufalos

1:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Katherine, I think the grumblings you're seeing here are related to the fact that we all approach this from a place of fandom. It's like a parent watching a child date someone you just get a hunch is wrong for them. You might think, "okay, I can't stop this, but if my gut's not wrong, we're all in for some heartache later."

Also the child and your sports fandom cost you lots of money.

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Mike Diviney

2:52 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Hmmm, not saying he's a "burst" just yet. I just think it's likely he will be- really hope I'm wrong.

lesliegrace

1:00 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Chip O'Hoy folks. Lets see if Kelly can cut it the the NFL. I want to know who the D coordinator is going to be. I think that is key in this hiring of Chip, the offense is going to be fine, but it's the Defense I am concerned about. I know for a fact that if Andy Reid doesn't draft Luke Joeckel then we will get him, if not then we will get Dee Milliner from alabama and then we can move Nnamdi to safety and cut Kurt Coleman.

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Mike Diviney

2:56 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Nnamdi can't tackle and Kurt Coleman is less of a problem than Nate Allen so that might not be a good idea. If they're going to go 3-4, I can see them taking Star Lotulelei from Utah to play nosetackle. Can't say I watch a lot of Utah football, but those who do say he's a stud.

Mike Shortall

1:19 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Geez ... Who says Eagles fans are short on patience?!?

I have my doubts about Chip Kelly being successful in the NFL, just like I would have had my doubts about Gus Bradley or Mike McCoy or whomever. That is, until they were able to prove they were up - or not - to the job.

At least I'll give Lurie and Roseman credit for thinking "outside the box" somewhat. They did not hire a retread (Wizenhunt) or a re-retread (Turner). And let's not forget how many of us asked "Who?!?" when Lurie and Banner plucked Andy Reid, an almost nobody - NFL head-coaching wise, out of the QB coach job at Green Bay.

I have my doubts, but I'm willing to see what develops. To suggest this is ALREADY a disaster or a 5-year franchise debacle is just a tad premature, don't ya think?!?

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Mike Diviney

2:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I don't think anyone's saying that. Of course, we have to let it play out, but a blog saying, "I'll give you my opinion after I see what happens", might be a tad disingenuous and boring. Willing to see what happens and I hope he's successful, I just don't think it's likely.

Porterincollingswood

1:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

If he succeeds I will be the first one on the bandwagon. What I want more than anything else is for the Birds to have an identity again, they haven't had that since JJ passed away.

Part of me wanted the strong identity on defense that Gus Bradley would have brought.

But yeah, he's a way better choice than Wisenhunt or Billick.

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Mike Diviney

3:00 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I'll be right next to you on the bandwagon. That's why I wanted Bradley- defensive minded. This is the Eagles we're talking about- always been about D and 2012's embarrassing D was the worst part of a terrible season.

maryjaneparker

2:13 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

This seems like a great hire. NOW let's get the best coordinators available and get rid of most of those we have. DEFENSE, DEFENSE, DEFENSE!!! And PLEASE don't keep Vick unless he does a MAJOR restructuring of his contract. We need to draft BIG maulers that are quick on both lines. two new safeties and/or quality corners who can tackle. Sign Byrd and any linemen that fit the above and we are SET. Cut out the dead wood and those who are overpaid. MOVING FORWARD, BABY!!!

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Porterincollingswood

2:28 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

He's going to run a 3-4 set. We're actually going to get linebackers! Now I am getting excited for this season.

At least it'll be new.

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Mike Diviney

3:10 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Well, an NFL team only has ONE coordinator at a time. Sounds like they're looking at the Georgia Bulldogs, Todd Grantham, to fill that role. He runs a 3-4 so personnel could be a problem. He does have 11 years of NFL experience with the Colts, Texans, Browns and Cowboys, most recently in 2009 so that could be a positive.

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Porterincollingswood

3:35 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Patterson strikes me as a nosetackle type, no? Do we move Cole to OLB or trade him? Cox fits as a 3-4 DE, so that's not so much an issue there.

We need a lot on defense with the scheme change, the draft has to be all about that I'd like them to trade down at least once to get extra 2nd and 3rd and 4th rounders. Stock up.

A new FS, SS, CB (or two), OLB (possibly two), ILB (to pair with Ryans), and DE...that's a lot to ask for in one draft. And no more old mercs, please.

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Sean McCullen

3:39 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I think we'll see Graham as one OLB and Kendricks as one of the ILBs. I can't see Cole making the move and playing OLB this late in his career, despite having played it at Cincy. I think he might be moved. I think Cullen Jenkins might be back, and obviously Curry and Cox, in terms of the D-line.

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Porterincollingswood

3:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

You are correct, how could I have missed that - Kendricks is penciled in at either ILB or OLB and Graham looked pretty good once we got rid of Rich Kotite Jr. (Wash).

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Porterincollingswood

3:54 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Curry, a pick I liked a lot) may be a tweener for the 3-4. He's 266 (4.98 combine 40; 4.69 pro day 40) and he didn't play anything but DE at Marshall - from what I could quickly find online.

Michael

3:05 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I like him. I think he will be a refreshing change. I always enjoy your articles Mike, but I disagree with you on this one. I disagree on Andy as well. Andy was a success because he was surrounded by talented coordinators. On his own, he is a bust. He is the only coach that I know of that called time outs when he didn't have any....twice. Clock managment was non existent and play calling was unimaginative. kelly on the other hand has assembled successful team, albeit on the college level, but he is recruiting for Oregon. Lets see, do I want to go to Miami, USC or Oregon? Tell me that isn't a tough sell. I think we may all be pleasantly surprised, but caution that his pick as D coordinator will be key to success.

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Mike Diviney

10:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Appreciate it and disagreeing is always cool. However, I don't know how many NFL coaches are successful without having help. A HC is a CEO. If he hires talented guys under him, he gets credit for that. If he misses- like he did with Wash, Juan, he gets fired. They scored a heckuva lot of pts and won a whole lot of games with his "unimaginative" play calling. Look at them before he got there. They won MORE division Championships in the 14 years Reid was here than they did in the SIXTY SIX years prior to his arrival. Not all about div championships, but people forget the raised expectations that come with success. Eagles were perennial also-rans before Reid.
As far as recruiting at Oregon- I think having Phil Knight in the backyard helped a lot. I sincerely hope Kelly is great- there's a chance, just not a strong one in my opinion.

Bo

3:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Two things, first great piece, second after reading it I concur per 'craving a return to physical football,' too and a s much as we all understand that hiring a defensive guy to be HC seems to long be out of vogue. I obiviously was wrong when I spoke of the potential hire of Chip whatever amount of pieces ago, but the simple fact is the utter rarity of a college coach getting a head job and much less succeeding in the NFL, without ever being previously employed by the league in any capacity, ever. That club has only one member and it is Jimmy Johnson and not ours. Then I remember the 3 person hiring team of Jeffery, Howie and Don all hadn't one bit of NFL experience either before the joined the Eagles. Maybe I should have thought outside of the box, cause yes Mike I agree this goes against all logic. I somehow hope I am wrong, and I won't put a percentage on it, but I too fear the worse. That said if its bad let's hope its quick and not long and drawn out like Lurie put us through with Reid. I just saw the press conference and post-conf interview with Lurie and he gushed about how much he love Chip. Heath Evans wrote a great piece on NFL.com where he ripped this hire. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000122162/article/philadelphia-eagles-hire-of-chip-kelly-could-be-nfls-worst-ever

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Sean McCullen

3:20 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I was against hiring Chip Kelly from the moment he was mentioned as a possibility once it became obvious that Andy Reid was going to be fired. I was happy when we were told almost two weeks ago that he was staying at Oregon. I was so angry yesterday when I heard the news he'd been hired that I started asking if it wasn't possible to bring Norman Braman back as owner (sarcastically, obviously). BUT, after talking with some people about the hire, I'm willing to give the guy a shot. If Belichick picks his brain, he can't be all bad. Plus, he actually ran the ball a lot (65 percent) at Oregon, and that's something most of us were begging for over the past decade plus. I understand a lot of those runs were the QB on read options, but, hey, it tells me he might run it 55 percent of the time at the NFL level. It is imperative he get an experienced NFL defensive coordinator in here. Not liking the rumors of him pursuing the Georgia D coordinator.

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Sean McCullen

3:40 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Just read above the Georgia D coordinator has NFL experience. Good to know.

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Mike Diviney

3:41 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Yeah, we have to give him a chance- really no other choice. They did run a lot, but like you said, many runs were by the QB. Can you see Nick Foles doing that? I'd bet a million dollars the Eagles rush-pass ratio is not 55-45 next season. We'll see.

Mike Diviney

3:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Bo, I read what Heath Evans wrote before. I agree with some of what he said, but he's not a guy I look to for sage analysis. I don't expect a team owner to have football acumen. Outside of Jerry Jones, Al Davis and a few others, most don't and their meddling has had a really negative impact on their teams. But usually the GM is a football guy- not so with the Eagles. That's worrisome.

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Porterincollingswood

3:38 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I was done with Mike McCoy as soon as Peyton took a knee with 30 seconds left and 2 TO's. That was as bad as anything Reid did in 14 years here.

Other than the Monte Reagor signing, which I will never ever let fade into memory.

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Mike Tribulas

3:51 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I agree....the Broncos had plenty of time to get in field goal range. Because of games like this, and the lame rules, I am losing interest in the NFL.....and I never thought I'd say that.

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Porterincollingswood

3:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Ryan had the same scenario and got it done. And he's not the QB Peyton is, although he's getting there.

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Joe

4:01 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

It is easy to arm-chair QB on these things. Taking a knee turned out to be the wrong decision but it was the right decision at the time. A decent return (i.e. 30 or 35) probably would have led to the Broncos going for it. However, starting at their own 20, any turnover (unless it was on a bomb) would have automatically put the Ravens in FG range. Do not forget, Manning cost them the game with the awful pick.

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Porterincollingswood

4:09 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Joe, of course hindsight is 20/20. But you have Matt Prater in the thin air of Mile High. You have Peyton Manning, and you have the 2 timeouts.

The prospect of OT favored the Ravens. The Broncos at that point had a shaken defense and was leaking oil badly. Flacco had their number. And offensively Denver could not sustain much if the game dragged on because their top 2 RB's are gone.

At least run a draw play to Hillman to see what you get. He gets stuffed, take the knee. He gets 12, you're in business.

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Mike Diviney

4:34 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

That was Fox's call Porter, not McCoy's. Let Monte Reagor go already...

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Porterincollingswood

7:39 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I guess now that Reid and Banner are gone it may be appropriate for me to let that one go. As a token of goodwill to Chip Kelly and Howie, I will let go of the fact that they signed an accident victim who showed up for the press conference in a neck brace and with a black eye. Scene right out of a commercial for a personal injury lawyer.

There.

Mike Diviney

4:36 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I like Peyton as much as the next guy, but he chokes over and over and over. Really weird how great he is in the regular season and how many huge mistakes he makes in the postseason.

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Mike Tribulas

4:40 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Like Romo the 'stat guy' from the CowGirls.

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Porterincollingswood

4:55 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

As soon as he threw it across his body everyone knew it was an INT.

Phil McConkey

8:26 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

How much money was Chip given? How much more did the Eagles have to pay to get him after he said no thanks. I haven't read the amount lately. I'm really curious to see how much they threw at him
And does anyone remember Steve Spurrier. Same hype when he came to the NFL!

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Porterincollingswood

8:31 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Undisclosed as of now. Or, maybe he went back to Oregon and received an honest assessment of the sanctions that are coming down the pike from the NCAA.

Lurie is a wealthy man. But so is Phil Knight, and he was prepared to pay Chip whatever it took to stay. My guess it Chip did well, but I'm not prepared to believe he played the Eagles. Yet.

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Mike Diviney

10:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

That's my fear Phil. Spurrier lost interest and didn't like to work hard and I don't think Kelly is like that. However, Spurrier was and is a great college coach and he was terrible in the NFL- just a different game and player attitudes are much different. Some guys can adapt so here's hoping.

Mike Diviney

10:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I could be wrong, but Phil Knight directly paying Chip Kelly? That would really surprise me. It's all retarded money, but Kelly was coach at New Hampshire as of 5 years ago so thinking the money is still a major deal with him.

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Porterincollingswood

7:23 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Phil Knight bankrolls the Oregon program and is a huge financial supporter of the school. He'd have been able to assure the University that he'd donate a large sum if they were to make a mega-deal offer to keep Chip.

I am not saying he would have handed him an envelope of cash. Although, with what we've seen from Penn State and Notre Dame and Ohio State and on and on...should anything surprise us? Is anything out of bounds? Financially? Morally?

Mike Diviney

10:27 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Porter, I think you dipped in to the Jamison a little early my friend. I don't think any chance it'll be quite like that. The prospect of Curry and Graham at OLB is very intriguing.

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Larry O'Doyle

12:40 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

I was not in favor of the hiring of Chip but from his press conference it does sound as if he is willing to adapt his philosophy to fit the current talent on the roster and not the other way around like his predecessor. Ahem... but we're not gonna get into all that right now. Chip does love to run the football and we are top-heavy on talent at that position which could be exciting. The defense needs a complete overhaul and a 3-4 will be a welcomed breath of fresh air. The key to success in today's NFL is versatility. This applies not only to personnel but to coaching and more importantly game-planning. Teams that succeed have a multitude of ways to attack their opponents making them unpredictable and difficult to prepare for. Stay versatile Chip and welcome to HELL.

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Mike Diviney

4:22 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Agreed Larry. I like the hiring more after hearing Kelly's press conference than I did before. He's got a chance.

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Porterincollingswood

4:48 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

It is exciting. More comments on this story than weeks 5-17 combined. It's re-energizing, and he was very impressive in the press conference.

Darren Gladden

1:48 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

The puck drops tomorrow guys .....Who writting about the Fly Boys ....ANYONE

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Matt Skoufalos

1:59 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

Sure are, Darren. We've got a new blogger, Josh Kaz, who's doing all that:

http://collingswood.patch.com/users/josh-kaz/blog_posts

Check back on Collingswood Patch for his big preseason roundup tomorrow morning, along with a special interview with none other than Bill Clement and Bernie Parent.

Bo

7:03 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

After I watched Chip Kelly's press conference, I gotta say I've changed my tune a bit and feel a little better. Heck it's easy to sense and hear that he's quite personable and real, there's no facade it seems. Andy sent him a text message before that press conference and told him to be himself and I believe that's what we got. I learned yesterday he was a bachelor, wherein it kinda sounds like he wants to sleep in his office cause all he does is breath, eat and sleep football, what birds fan wouldn't like that or wanna give him a chance. As a coach I know this to be true for many young people, and I believe it also, and something Chip elaborated on in that press conference. They have a understandable desire to often be explained the 'why' of whatever you ask of them, in practice and or games. I've heard this statement from many a well known college or professional coach, in whatever TV interview, when explaining some of the differences between today's athletes and those in the recent or distant past.

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Phil McConkey

7:34 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013

All you guys who say the press conference changed you, you sound just like the 18 year old kids he recruits to Oregon and sells himself to the kids family to get the kid to sign. All the top college football programs are part coaching and huge part recruiting. I'd say you need to be more of a salesman than a coach in the top programs. Chip just closed the deal on you.

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Mike Diviney

12:20 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Yeah, you can't take too much out of a press conference, but I given it was really the first time fans were meeting him, I liked what I heard.

Jeem

8:32 am on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Mike, I am not sure how to say this ...But you are a moron. You would rather have Gus Bradley???? I am not saying that Chip will necessarilly turn out better, but what credentials does Gus Bradely have as an NFL coach? Oh yeah, he yells at players on the sideline. Good credentials. Oh yeah he had that vaunted seahawk defense that simply let matt ryan and the atlanta offense move down the field in 19 seconds to with the playoff game against them. That is the guy I want coaching my team...NOT! Chip Kelly has gone 46-7 in the past 4 seasons, won with 3 different qb's, has run the ball 60% of the time in college and has won in a program that generally does not have the top recruits. The Eagles will be a fun team to watch and in my opinion, the Eagles got the best coach available. Kudos to the birds for trying to make the team better. Tell me Mike, how many oregon games did you watch in the past 2 years? Can you name any oregon players without looking them up on the internet?? Point is, you have no idea how good a coach this guy is.

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Bo

11:08 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Hey Jeem how many college coaches with no prior experience as an assistant in the league, have been hired to be a head coach of an NFL team, in the past say 20 yrs. Trust me that number doesn't reach double digits, wherein the success rate of that small group of coaches is one, and most of those college coaches failed miserably, with a few having a little success. So there is a very valid reason that a coordinator of one of the best defenses in the league, over the past two seasons, is far more attractive and has a greater chance for success than does Chip Kelly. Monte Kiffin, the godfather of defensive coordinators, has raved about him and his prospects for success if he was given an opportunity to lead an NFL team. We have no possible way to predict the success of either coach mentioned here, but the numbers don't lie, wherein the chances of success are far greater when a coach with any previous experience in the league gets hired to be a head coach as opposed to one that doesn't. My point to you is, as I feel and hope the same, but how do you know that the Eagles will be a fun team to watch next year.

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Mike Diviney

12:26 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Nor do you. Without looking it up, I know Oregon is not in the NFL. You're saying Bradley doesn't have credentials as an NFL coach. That's funny, given your support of college lifer Chip Kelly. The Seahawks D was the NUMBER 1 defense in the NFL over the 16 game season. Beyond that, not sure who you are or what YOUR credentials are in hiring NFL HC's, but no one is a moron for having an opinion and certainly you're not in a position to call anyone a moron. I hope Kelly's the next Lombardi- we'll see.

Bo

9:06 pm on Saturday, January 19, 2013

Gentlemen, no one here, including myself, who stated that they changed their mind after hearing that press conference said anything about how good or bad a hire he'll eventually turn out to be. I still have my reservations, but I know what I thought after seeing that press conference yesterday, his first in-front of the Philly press and fans, was a guy without any pro experience, who didn't shrink at that moment in the least, but actually rose to occasion. I think our press corp and fans are a tougher sell than whatever potential Oregon recruit you speak of. The funny fact is Kelly was well known for never getting nor seeking four and five star recruits. He is well known for maximizing the skills and talents of the lesser 1, 2 & 3 star recruits, four consecutive BCS bowl games. I think that truth speaks volumes of a coach that would rather take the challenge of coaching the lesser recruit. That's how the best coaches prove to themselves and others how good they really are. I wonder how good a coach Nick Saban would be if he didn't have a top 5 recruiting class each and every year and had to coach one of Kelly's duck teams. Chip again proved he was up for the challenge in the way he came off in the press conference, and once I did some reading I concluded that yesterday wasn't the only challenge he accepted and succeeded at with flying colors. Now will he succeed here, only time will tell. http://www.phillymag.com/eagles/2013/01/16/getting-to-know-chip-kelly/

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Porterincollingswood

8:38 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Yes - but does that mean that Chip is an expert at finding guys who fit his system? And if his system doesn't work...we're stuck in the kind of situation I mentioned in my first post? Guys who, if put in a conventional system, can't measure up? Like a squad of Jason Babins.

I admit my bias. I've seen the Wide 9 and the Run-n-Shoot fail, and the Wildcat get quickly figured out. So I'm averse to gimmicky philosophies.

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Mike Diviney

12:29 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Well said Bo. Given that it was his 1st press conference, we were going to get a first impression of him... and it was positive for what it's worth.

Jeem

9:56 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

They were looking at bilick, mike Nolan and ken wisenhunt....I am glad they hired Kelly.

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Mike Diviney

12:31 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

You conveniently leave out Bradley, the guy they were closest to hiring? Why?

Jeem

9:57 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

And Bo, the game is changing.,,while your point about college coaches not panning out over history is correct. However, 2 recent examples (harbaugh and Carroll) have worked out just fine

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Mike Diviney

12:30 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Carroll is in his THIRD NFL Head Coaching position. Harbaugh played in the NFL for 14 years. Get a clue!

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Bo

9:15 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

this is Carroll third stint in the NFL, his first was with New England back in the Mid 90's, then the Jets shortly after that. Harbaugh was a starting QB in the league who played for the Bears and almost took a Colts team to the Super Bowl in '95, so sure he wasn't a coach in the NFL but he had a substantial history. Kelly has no history, that is the key point, and how rare it is to hire a guy with no history is what I am pointing too. Take the Bills new coach, Doug Marone, he happened to be a player for a short time in the leagues, but was the Saints OC for 3 yrs before taking the head job at Syracuse. Mike Reilly, was one of the few I remember who I know hadn't had any experience in the league before he was hired away from Oregon St in the late 90's by the Chargers and I know that didn't last long cause he's back at Oregon State.

@xxLouA

10:13 am on Sunday, January 20, 2013

anayway you look at it. MV has to go but Chip had a converse with him yesterday and it went well, he also said that the dogman would fit well....But he said he knows Nick and loves the way he plays. Dogman has to go, is Lurie and his crew that screwed up.....things have to be tried out....maybe that will be the 10% his guy talks about.... good luck with more waiting to find out, to me that's all BS...

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Mike Diviney

11:45 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

I like the Shurmur hire. He's got NFL experience- as a HC. He also has Philly experience which can only help. Plus, Kelly's going to run the framework of the offense for the most part I would imagine. The much more important hire is the DC.

Jeem

2:25 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

They both implemented a college style approach and it is working. That is my point. How do you know Bradley's success was not as a result of Carrol? He is defensive minded head coach. It is easy to look at the potential downside aspects to Kelly's hire. That is what the average blog writer does. (Ok, I may be giving you too much credit). The fact of the matter is there is a lot to like about this hire and I for one is optimistic about the change. We can't be any worse than we have been the past 2 years.

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Mike Diviney

11:42 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Dude, who are you to criticize my opinion of the hire. I don't mind if you disagree, but state your own dissenting opinion, don't dismiss mine. I is optimistic about the change, I'm just not sure they got the right guy. I'm not in favor of "anyone" besides the guy we had. I hope he succeeds, but he's got a lot to overcome given that he has no NFL experience. It's a concern and to not acknowledge that is foolish.

Jeem

2:26 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Sorry should have said am optimistic...typo!

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Jeem

10:09 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

One college coach with no nfl coaching experience is in the Super Bowl. Imagine that

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Mike Diviney

11:43 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

I guess you're just going to ignore his 14 year NFL career? I watch the entire NFL very closely, but I guess I missed Chip's playing career.

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Bo

11:48 pm on Sunday, January 20, 2013

Which one, John was our special teams coach before he took the Ravens job and we've already spoke about Jim here.

Jeem

6:26 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

You can make a case for negativity no matter who the birds hired. I personally would like to give the guy a chance before I determine he is the "wrong fit." Let him coach at least a couple games before making that statement. Your point was that Kelly has no nfl coaching experience. Well Jim did not either and John was a ST coach. Both were unconventional hires. Much like Chip.

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Mike Diviney

4:57 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

Again, there's no sense in me writing a piece saying, I will give my opinion on Chip Kelly after I see how he does. I qualified it enough by saying I'm giving it a chance and I think he's got a chance, I'd just prefer a guy with NFL experience.

Jeem

6:28 am on Monday, January 21, 2013

And I am happy they did not hire the other options. The only guy I would say I might have considered more was Bradley. But he is no lock to be great either.

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Mike Diviney

4:58 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

Agreed that Bradley is the only other candidate I really liked and no there are no locks until they've done it.

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Bo

5:25 pm on Monday, January 21, 2013

When Jim Harabagh asks which 9ers player, and however he'll ask or demand these players to do whatever in practice and or games there is an all important built in level of respect because he's successfully played the game at NFL level, and all his players know that. This is simply the culture of the sport, this league, where grown men get paid great money to play a very physically demanding sport. This isn't college football, where the threshold for pain and pushing your physical limits has lower expectations. Chip will never have that so in a sense he has to be that much better a communicator and an Xs and Os guy, cause he could much more quickly be shut out by whatever players, using whatever tactics he uses to motivate and teach. Jim Harbaugh, DID have HC experience before leading Stanford to 1 maybe 2 BCS games. Least we forget that however good Jim Harbaugh was, and though he might not have been the best HC in his first go-around, Mike Singletary played an important part in shaping, disciplining and molding that team to then arrive at what appears to be a bit more of a players coach in Jim Harbaugh. There's the converse a guy who was so good, better than Jim, that his personal expectations of what success is and how to achieve it, will never coincide with his players. Once Mike finds that balance he'll come back a better HC or DC.

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