Gloucester Township Roads Remain Open, Despite 12 Accidents and Disabled Vehicles

Authorities are still asking residents to avoid nonessential travel.

All Gloucester Township roads remained open Tuesday night despite a stubborn winter snow storm.

Police responded to 12 crashes and disabled vehicles through 9 p.m. Authorities have asked residents to avoid traveling and remove any parked vehicles and trash cans from roadways so that the streets can be plowed.

The governor has issued a state of emergency but this does not include a restriction of travel.

Sicilan1 January 22, 2014 at 07:30 AM
Thanks for the plow job that left a wall 3feet high and blocked our drive again.
coremgmt January 22, 2014 at 10:50 AM
Had 3 come through 1 blocked my driveway 1 blocked my mailbox the other piled 6 ft on top of street drain
Roe1549 January 22, 2014 at 11:54 AM
Thank you for a great job treating and plowing our street. My self, as well as my neighbors are always appreciative of a job well done!!!
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 12:21 PM
Hey Sicilan1 and coremgmt, maybe Roe1549 can come over with her neighbors to dig you both out since she and her neighbors are all so giddy about how well they were treated. Of course, Roe1549 will have to remove the blinders she has on to find your places. Good luck.
Roe1549 January 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM
I'm not giddy, I'm just appreciative!
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 12:36 PM
BTW, @Roe1549, tell us what street you're on so we can all come over and take a look at what it looks like when the job is done right. (strictly rhetorical:-)
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 12:42 PM
Ok, Roe1549, are you implying that Sicilan1 is lying about the bank of snow blocking his/her driveway? Or should he/she just shut up and be glad there wasn't six feet blocking the driveway? Come on, I really want to know.
Roe1549 January 22, 2014 at 01:44 PM
You're a little aggressive Mr. DiBartolo. I would NEVER imply that anyone is lying. I do realize that not every street in the township was treated and plowed as mine was, and I would also let my feelings be known if that we're the case, just as the others are. I am however, just showing my appreciation for the fact that my street was done.
True Dat January 22, 2014 at 02:04 PM
Come on, Roe. We can tell that you must be an co-conspirator or an enabler of the corrupt Norcross-Sweeney-Andrews machine.
Roe1549 January 22, 2014 at 02:37 PM
You people are crazy!!! I can't believe that you can't post a positive review without being accused of something or involved with someone!!!
Heather R January 22, 2014 at 02:50 PM
Wow, I have to agree with Roe on this one. I don't live on a publicly plowed street, so I don't have much input on that, but I've never seen someone attacked for saying thank you to hard working men and women. Anyone here who doubts that plow and salt drivers work hard in unsafe conditions? Do not let your disgust with the way things are being run up top detract from a hard working group of people who: are griped at often, are shown gratitude rarely, and make the streets safer for the rest of us, even if they're not perfectly so.
True Dat January 22, 2014 at 03:32 PM
Heather, Roe, I hear ya. Sorry if the sarcasm didn't come through in my comment.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 04:50 PM
Hey, Heather, not that I believe I was in any way attacking Roe1549 rather, just trying to get her to give us some detail...but, what's your take on the hardworking men and women riding around in GT Public Works' vehicles and seen just prior to the election removing Team-Mayer's opponent's election signs? Who was paying them and how hard were they working? Frankly, I'm tired of all the bull flowing around this township and it's time for truly hard-working, tax-paying residents to have a voice which includes standing up and speaking their minds. And that's all that's happening here, no deep and hidden conspiracies, so if you think you're being attacked you need to wake up and smell the coffee and get real. BTW, @Roe1549..."aggressive"? You need to go pedal your B.S. elsewhere.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 04:53 PM
@True Dat...oh yeah, you're really convincing. Leave it to you, whomever you are, to bring up conspiracies. A couple people complained because they didn't think they got the service they deserved and you turn them into paranoids hiding behind bushes and yelling conspiracy. Man, if the shoe ever fits...
Roe1549 January 22, 2014 at 05:26 PM
Mr DiBartolo, with all do respect sir, I don't have any B.S. To pedal. All I was doing was saying how I appreciated my street being plowed. I do however feel like I'm being attacked, for what? I truly don't know. I was just showing my appreciation!!! It's not a political at all, it's just saying thank you!
Dawn Briggs January 22, 2014 at 06:04 PM
I live in the Oxen Hill area and happily surprised my area was plowed a few times yesterday since it is not a main roadway.
Bob Kola January 22, 2014 at 06:05 PM
I, too, had 3 feet of snow plowed in front of my driveway. However, this was because one of our cars was parked in the street near the driveway. When the plow came through and turned to miss my car, that swerve pushed the snow off the front of the plow and in front of my driveway. My neighbors across the street, who had no vehicles parked near their driveways, only had about 12 or 18 inches of snow to clear from in front of their driveways. In past snow storms when I've parked all my cars off the street, I had less snow plowed in front of my driveway. To Sicilan1 and coremgmt, have you called Gloucester Township Public Works to explain the situation? Or, better yet, come to the next Township Council General or Workshop meeting and express your concerns directly to the Council (I'm sure the usual suspects in the audience would be glad to see you). If you live in a development, you were probably plowed by an independent contractor hired by the Township. Some of the independent contractors are better than others and the Township Public Works and Council should be made aware of the ones who are not providing good service. If it was a Township truck and employee plowing your street they should also be made aware of that.
Bob Kola January 22, 2014 at 06:24 PM
During the last Township Council meeting I attended, I told the Council that I thought the Township did a good job during and after the last snow storm. I could only speak of the backroads roads I traveled (Chews Landing, Kelly Driver, Blackwood-Clementon, College Drive, Erial) from the Glen Oaks development to Cross Keys Road. Those streets were well plowed and the side streets I looked down also seemed to me to be plowed. I have to say the same thing after this storm. I left work on Tuesday at 1:30P and the above streets were snow covered but easily passable (you could tell a plow had been down the road at least once). I got up at 6A on Wednesday, shoveled out the three feet of snow in front of my driveway and headed to work at about 9:15A. Again, the roads were all plowed and in much better condition then they were the previous afternoon. When I left work that same day at 3P you could see blacktop on most of the major roads, and when I turned into my development I was directly behind a truck that was putting down traction material at all of the intersections. If your experience on the Township roads were not as good as mine, then speak-up. Make a phone call, or send an email, or better yet, attend a Council meeting and make your views known. If your neighbors feel the same as you, then get them to attend the meeting with you. Nothing gets the attention of our Councilpersons quicker than a large group of new faces addressing them about the same issue.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 22, 2014 at 06:30 PM
Hey @Roe1549, my comment about pedaling B.S. was in response to your accusations concerning my so-called "aggressiveness". Just trying to keep up with the rhetoric.
Jeff Garcia January 23, 2014 at 08:41 AM
Hey Roe, here's how things work here and I don't comment very often because of it. If you say something positive about the Twp. You will be attacked. Furthermore, if you do not agree with Mr. DiBartolo or express any opinion that he does not agree with, whether it is directed to him or not and you will be attacked. I think it's in the user agreement when you sign up for patch. So here come the attacks. By the way, my street was plowed so so. I'm neither going to sing the praises of the contractor that did my area nor complain that didn't do well enough.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 23, 2014 at 09:14 AM
Hey Jeff, you have a very weird standard as to what constitutes an attack. If you are really interested, I will show you some of the comments made to and about me and compare them to what I've written and see what constitutes an attack. Just let me know. Some people apparently don't understand what a social media site like this is all about. A story is written and it's up for comment. When you choose to comment your post enters the public domain and is also up for criticism or agreement. No Jeff, contrary to your critical comments of me, I did not make the rules. If you make a comment on a subject that I am following and that interests me and I disagree, I will will counter. If you reply that my view is an attack and then begin to criticize me, as you did, then it's open season. As for my attacks, show me one comment I've made that is a personal attack on someone that is directed towards anything other than their expressed POV. I go after ideas not persons. Now, if you could just supply me with a pair of the glasses you see the world through maybe I'll see things as you do. I sincerely hope that comment wasn't too hard for you to handle.
R Ford January 23, 2014 at 09:57 AM
Some people are just myopic and un-self-aware. The sad irony is, because of the very nature of these conditions, such individuals are unlikely to ever mitigate their circumstance.
Jeff Garcia January 23, 2014 at 10:56 AM
Paul, even though I don't use social media nearly as often as some others I understand the concept. Thanks for the refresher anyway. There are others on this site that are generally critical of the township, much as you are. However, they are not disrespectful of other people simply for making a positive comment. Any time there is a positive comment or post made a negative comment from you, often directed at the original poster and off topic, is sure to follow. Roe wrote "Thank you for a great job treating and plowing our street. My self, as well as my neighbors are always appreciative of a job well done!!!" What about that statement is for you to agree or disagree with? Roe was happy with the way their street was plowed, were you? I wouldn't know, you could have commented about how your particular street was taken care of, or how your experiences driving within the township were but you didn't. You decided to address Roe directly, simply for making a positive statement that wasn't directed at you or anybody else. Im sure many people on this site will agree with me and you have done the same thing to many of them. It seems that people who demand the most amount of respect are the same as those who show others the least amount of respect. And to R Ford. Love your comment, learned a new word, myopic. Wait for it, Paul's going to insult my intelligence. Check my grammar and spelling while you're at, you're usually good for that one too.
Jeff Garcia January 23, 2014 at 10:59 AM
With that said, Paul fire off your counterpoint if you choose and let that be the end of it. Lets talk about the streets and the snow as the thread was originally intended.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 23, 2014 at 07:04 PM
Okay Jeff, let me explain to you how the Patch in GT works since, in fact, you don't get it. I got involved here over two years ago and have written numerous blogs and posted even more comments and I've seen the lay of the land here in GT. There are a number of shills that wait in the background and then go to work when someone blogs or posts less than flattering comments about GT and its current bosses. It has happened to me over and over again. The attack dogs come out, always posing as innocents, but for some reason are always new to the Patch and then when they are found out, swap out the name for a new identity. This is a telltale sign of who they really are. Case in point...the first two posters to this story made negative comments about our town, then Roe1549 came on the scene. Now, I really didn't check Roe's identity at the time, but I did notice that the comment seemed to be a veiled attempt to denigrate the negative opinions of Sicilan1 and coremgmt...so I weighed in. Oh, I'm sorry you thought I was attacking Roe and you. Well, after your latest comment, I checked Roe's status...Oh my, it appears that Roe1549 is a brand new poster and has never posted on the Patch before commenting on this story (wink-wink). Maybe I'm naive, Jeff, but that is a telltale sign, as mentioned above, of a covert township shill and I've seen plenty of them. As for why I call attention to grammar...because it's a very good indication of the writer. It's what is called a "tell" in poker. When someone makes a grammar mistake it usually carries over to their other personaes. It's a dead give-away and you can see it a mile away. I do find it interesting that while you decry what you think are attacks on my part you have no problem attacking me and take pleasure in those who do. And finally, Jeff, I called attention to the fact that the township MUA workers had no problem tearing down Team-Mayer's political opponent's yard signs while oh the clock but nobody seemed to have a problem with that. Too negative for you, Jeff. Yeah, I get it, Jeff, and have a nice day.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 23, 2014 at 07:29 PM
>> township MUA workers... Let that read "Public Works employees.
Paul J. DiBartolo January 23, 2014 at 10:39 PM
BTW, Jeff Garcia and Co., feel free to use your real names at any time.


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