It’s become something of a routine by now. At every recent Gloucester Township school board meeting, a contingent of red-shirted teachers shows up. Usually someone talks about the stalled teacher contract negotiations, sometimes not.
But in truth, the board of education and the Gloucester Township Education Association (GTEA) teachers union are treading on unfamiliar ground. The two sides agree on very little, except this: No one can remember the last time negotiations took this long or progressed to this point.
“We have never been to this stage,” GTEA President Angel McDermott said at the Jan. 28 board meeting. “In my 16 years as president (and) my six years as negotiations chair before that, we have never reached this stage. This is new to all of us.”
The 600-plus teachers in the K-8 district’s 11 schools have worked without a formal contract . Negotiations are so stalled and mediation so mired that the school board and GTEA decided to proceed with fact-finding, a formal process where a mutually agreed upon fact-finder holds hearings and makes recommendations on a settlement.
But even that decision is caught up in disagreements. The school board says GTEA cancelled a planned Jan. 7 fact-finding meeting; GTEA says the school board didn’t allot enough time for a fact-finding meeting on Jan. 7 and it was prepared to meet more informally instead. With the meeting called off, the next available date is in late March.
And that’s just a very minor disagreement on a list of issues creating an impasse on the teacher contracts. As the school board and GTEA slog to find common ground, students have or will start to see the effects of the protracted negotiations as teachers begin job actions.
Teachers could begin upholding the letter of their employment agreement and refuse any extra work not required. That may mean no extended afterschool hours or no extra work to plan activities and trips.
The school board denied on Monday knowing whether job actions will occur, but a board member spoke out against it. While saying she has the utmost respect for Gloucester Township teachers, Linda Gilch said job actions only harm students.
“You’re not hurting us, you’re not hurting the board, you’re not hurting administrators by doing any type of job action—you’re hurting the children,” she said. “I understand you want a contract and I understand we need to come to a consensus. But you’re not taking anything away from us.”
A parent and teacher in another district, Debra Hines, countered that the board expects “250 percent” from its educators, who don’t like the job actions either.
“It’s crushing them to be lowered down to the level to treat (students) as minimally as possible,” she said. “If they start to give what they’re contractually supposed to give, and they pull back, it’s breaking their heart inside. They would prefer to have a contract and be treated with dignity and the respect they deserve for educating children.”
A ray of hope?
The impasse between the board and teachers shows little sign of cracking. Both sides stood resolute in laying the blame at the other’s feet, although they may meet again before the March fact-finding session.
“We would be willing to meet again to try to discuss it. But meeting also entails the parties compromising on some situations, and part of the difficulty we have is we haven’t been able to bridge that gap,” John Wade, school board solicitor, said.
“Unfortunately, we’re in a situation where we have 2-percent cap, we have restrictions on us now the likes of which we’ve never had before. So, we came to the table and said we have certain restrictions and we need to operate within those restrictions. You folks didn’t take that position.”
The school board didn’t approach its 2-percent cap in budget talks, McDermott retorted.
“Do you want to settle the contract for 2 percent?” Wade shot back. “I’m a little frustrated because we’re hearing this now. The reality is you’re not willing to settle for 2 percent. You’ve told us that.”
McDermott later said GTEA and the school board are “approximately 2 percent” apart on their demands for the contract. She also acknowledged there are unspecified school-board positions that the GTEA will not agree to.
“Yes, compromises need to be made, but we have to see where that will lie,” she said.
The next Gloucester Township Board of Education meeting is scheduled for Feb. 25 at 7 p.m. at Lewis Middle School. If recent history is any indication, the room will once again be filled with teachers wearing their signature red GTEA polo shirts.
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I will parrot the same line we hear over and over, "It's for the children." Yes, it is for the children and we owe them a good education, so let's get something that works and give up on the idea that more money is always the answer because it never is.
Just Care, Darren.
As for the failure of the school system; I have paid for it my whole life and I have as much right as anyone else to pass judgment on it. It didn't just fail, it's been a long time in the making. Get out and see the world, Chris, we're failing our young people. Ask over at Camden County College...75% of the HS graduates coming in have to take remedial classes. How is it working out for them and us, Chris? The rebate I mentioned was what the districts paid to religious school students if they were unable to provide them with bus service. My point was I never asked for anything nor did I ever get anything...I just paid and paid and paid.
I will look into the numbers on the subject here. If you know of a way to save this failed system I’m all ears! If you have an alternative system that will not cost the taxpayers any more money, again I’m all ears!
So, Chris, it's not my obligation to help the teachers. They get paid for that and I have my own job to help pay their salaries, along with the fact that I raised and educated my own six children; I think I did my part. As for the cost of educating students...I've done the homework...it's $16,000 per student in this district for high school. That entails the whole cost and it's quite high with a poor ROI. This discussion is getting circular so, as for my views and what I've done or suggested...Here's my blog page: http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/users/paul-j-dibartolo/blog_posts?page=1 You can look through it. There are two pieces on education; one two-parter and one five-parter. If you are serious about discussing the state of our educational system, I'm your huckleberry. If you're not willing to do the homework, as you accuse me, then let's let it rest. See the next post for the individual links to the educational blogs I've written.
http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/the-state-of-education-part-i http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/the-state-of-education-part-ii http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/you-do-the-math http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/education-in-america-part-i-can-we-talk-about-our-education-problems http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/education-in-america-part-ii-when-is-16k-per-year-for-education-not-enough http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/education-in-america-part-iii-exxonmobil-wants-to-solve-this-problem http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/education-in-america-part-iv-improving-ap-test-scores-by-138-percent http://gloucestertownship.patch.com/blog_posts/education-in-america-part-v-the-ap-tests
It's not the teachers' fault your taxes are high - it's the tax system.
A Fact Finder is a supposedly neutral third party hired by the state. He takes arguments that are presented to him from both the union and the administration, and makes objective recommendations. Problems with this: 1)The recommendations are not binding; 2)Due to Christie cutbacks, there are only two Fact Finders in the state. With hundreds of NJ districts with expired teacher contracts, it takes months and months from when arguments are presented until recommendations are given. This situation, along with the legal restraints against teacher strikes, gives school boards all the leverage, and zero incentive to bargain in good faith to settle contracts.
How can a program like this simply run out of money when they have a fixed set of children for a fixed period of time? How many other programs have been cut because of the district administration's incompetience. As a township resident I am concerned we can't manage a simple fiscal ledger. As a parent I am outraged that any of my children come home saying the school ran out of money to help him. Where are the school boards priorities? Where did the money for this program go? Looking at the last meeting's minutes hundreds of thousands of dollars were moved around into "Misc Admin" accounts. What are these?
Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work10 months a year. It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do,babysit.We can get that for less than minimum wage.That’s right. Let’s give them $3 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school.That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day,maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.However, remember they only work 180 days a year.I am not going to pay them for any vacations.LET’S SEE…That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on. My calculator needs new batteries.) What about those special education teachers and the ones with master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour.That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here.There sure is!The average teacher’s salary (nationwide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student– a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!